New Head Baseball Coach @ UNCA

[CoachMann]

Z-
Just don't jump on the lacrosse bandwagon. Soccer has been "growing in popularity" in the US since 1974. Lacrosse is " growing in popularity" at a rate faster than soccer. Well 0 times 0 is still a bunch of guys running around with sticks. Not cool. You are better than that Z.

Coach - Baseball Coach.

[uncafan]

Zilla has officially hijacked every thread on this board.... So zilla, your telling me if Roy came knocking on your door to recruit your son, and that included a new car -- your going to let him go to CH? I know Sidney can't pull the new car but knowing the fine athletic heritage your offspring will arise from I'm sure that full-ride is already being set aside... Actually, lets be honest...your not going to be able to turn Eddie down... no one can ever turn Eddie down...
Eddie will be coaching from his wheel-chair by then, but he'll still be out there...Ironically the UNCA baseball coach will also be coaching from his wheelchair...

Where is sadsite?

[UNCA Alum]

Zilla -

You are telling me you are going to let your kid turn down a chance to play for Jeff Capel and get a free Duke education? That's crazy talk man.

[kingaling42]

I'm just glad to see that once a topic in the baseball forums get so far off topic from the original thread that posts aren't being deleted by the moderator.... Can this be moved to some other non-productive area on the site- for real I'm getting dumber now...

[the cats]

... it hurts tremendously to get bashed by this crowd ...

Heck, you should wear it as a badge of honor.

[sadsite]

just so we're clear ... I am one with a fairly decent baseball background ... qualified interest in Bulldog Baseball ... want to see the program not just improve, but be relevant in college baseball. I am a fan of Tom Smith anh his accomplishments as a high school coach, but not a fan of the hire. Whether TS was directly responsible for a couple of the worst years in Bulldog baseball's not-so impressive history or not ... the fact is, he was there every day. IMO, TS played the game as a volunteer & came in early everyday, made sure JC and the admin saw him there, played dumb as to the problems - maybe even provided his opinions without coming across as disloyal and used his seniority to shine a light on himself to a not-so educated AD about what is a normal practice of college coaches (volly or not) ... that is, they should work long hours. JC, because of her lack of knowledge of college baseball became enamored by TS & his work ethic, and didn't realize - that is the norm with college baseball coaches (good or bad). The fact is, as an assistant you have many opportunities to make your mark on a program & team, despite the other leadership figures. Tom's wisdom, experience in coaching (not college), ties to community, should have made a difference the past two years and should have become evident ... not been a part of the tailspin. Those things he is promising now, if he was doing his job the last two years ... should already have become a reality. Instead, it looks to me like he allowed the tailsping to continue for his own status (his own son was making statements over six months ago that his Daddy was going to be the next head coach) ... Let's remember TS came on not-so-long (little over a yr) after the dogs won the tourney championship. The downfall of the program was to not take advantage of that 4-5 day success & boost recruiting the next few years. Winning a championship & getting to a Regional should assist recruiting for 2-3 years at least ... instead we used as a time to relax. Fact is, since TS has arrived ... no prominent area players have been recruited, & batting averages have rapidly declined. What mark has he made as an assistant. However, I tip my hat to him ... he managed to get promoted after a 9-42 season ... what a great world we live in!

My crystal ball... July 2012

3 seasons in the books ... 3 seasons with more than 9 wins

3 seasons in the books ... 3 seasons finishing 6th in the conference or below

3 seasons in the books ... you start to hear rumblings from the paper & HC of excuses blaming the lack of funding & support

at this time, let's remember that TS has promised to win baseball championships consistently ... with the funding and resources that are in place. The future isn't hard to predict ... give him 3 years & he'll be crying "lack of funds & support" for the reasons he hasn't been able to get the dogs over the top. Will he be saying "BP" or "PB" (c'mon can't we come up with something better than that) after 3 years. They'll have more wins than this past season, but that is becasue he probably won't have an assistant that has alterior motives like he did at one point causing players to question authority or lack there of.

... can't wait to hear the slashing I take for this one!

[UNCA Alum]

Re: Coach Smith tossing out the first pitch at a Tourists game.


Let's just hope, for our baseball program's sake, that he doesn't throw a baseball like an 11yr old left handed schoolgirl... similar to a certain Commander-in-Chief that we all know and love. Good Lord that was awful.

[bball25]

I think the hiring of coach smith speaks volumes about two things:
1.) the current administration- obviously there is no commitment to the program- I'm sure there were numerous more qualified coaches apply for the job but hiring any of them would've meant the school would have to make some changes. The initial list of 3 candidates Smith, Filipek, Taylor all would've come cheaply and weren't in a position to ask or expect more. 2.) Coach Smith had 2 be working behind the scenes for this job from Day 1. How you can be on the staff of a program that had so many internal problems and won 9 games and finished last this year and barely made the tourney the year before- with the best pitcher in the league on your pitching staff is beyond me. And it says alot of about the administration for not looking outside the UNCA community.

Coach Smith will win more games next year- he will probably soften the schedule. But making the conference tourney will be a struggle for the next 3 years. Everyone else in the conference is getting better but us. Coach Smith might be a better hire than what we had, but the opportunity to really do something big with the program and turn some heads was missed.

[pullin4thesparkplug]

just so we're clear ... I am one with a fairly decent baseball background ... qualified interest in Bulldog Baseball ... want to see the program not just improve, but be relevant in college baseball. I am a fan of Tom Smith anh his accomplishments as a high school coach, but not a fan of the hire. Whether TS was directly responsible for a couple of the worst years in Bulldog baseball's not-so impressive history or not ... the fact is, he was there every day. IMO, TS played the game as a volunteer & came in early everyday, made sure JC and the admin saw him there, played dumb as to the problems - maybe even provided his opinions without coming across as disloyal and used his seniority to shine a light on himself to a not-so educated AD about what is a normal practice of college coaches (volly or not) ... that is, they should work long hours. JC, because of her lack of knowledge of college baseball became enamored by TS & his work ethic, and didn't realize - that is the norm with college baseball coaches (good or bad). The fact is, as an assistant you have many opportunities to make your mark on a program & team, despite the other leadership figures. Tom's wisdom, experience in coaching (not college), ties to community, should have made a difference the past two years and should have become evident ... not been a part of the tailspin. Those things he is promising now, if he was doing his job the last two years ... should already have become a reality. Instead, it looks to me like he allowed the tailsping to continue for his own status (his own son was making statements over six months ago that his Daddy was going to be the next head coach) ... Let's remember TS came on not-so-long (little over a yr) after the dogs won the tourney championship. The downfall of the program was to not take advantage of that 4-5 day success & boost recruiting the next few years. Winning a championship & getting to a Regional should assist recruiting for 2-3 years at least ... instead we used as a time to relax. Fact is, since TS has arrived ... no prominent area players have been recruited, & batting averages have rapidly declined. What mark has he made as an assistant. However, I tip my hat to him ... he managed to get promoted after a 9-42 season ... what a great world we live in!

My crystal ball... July 2012

3 seasons in the books ... 3 seasons with more than 9 wins

3 seasons in the books ... 3 seasons finishing 6th in the conference or below

3 seasons in the books ... you start to hear rumblings from the paper & HC of excuses blaming the lack of funding & support

at this time, let's remember that TS has promised to win baseball championships consistently ... with the funding and resources that are in place. The future isn't hard to predict ... give him 3 years & he'll be crying "lack of funds & support" for the reasons he hasn't been able to get the dogs over the top. Will he be saying "BP" or "PB" (c'mon can't we come up with something better than that) after 3 years. They'll have more wins than this past season, but that is becasue he probably won't have an assistant that has alterior motives like he did at one point causing players to question authority or lack there of.

... can't wait to hear the slashing I take for this one!

I don't disagree at all. This post is proud to be slash free.

[GoUNCA]

Re: Coach Smith tossing out the first pitch at a Tourists game.


Let's just hope, for our baseball program's sake, that he doesn't throw a baseball like an 11yr old left handed schoolgirl... similar to a certain Commander-in-Chief that we all know and love. Good Lord that was awful.

haha....I don't know what you expect out of a guy who wears a Chicago White Sox jacket.

[UNCA Alum]

Or a left hander.

[pullin4thesparkplug]

imagine if he was a ginger...

[POP13]

Hate to interrupt the witty repartee... but has anyone heard of asst. coaches being named?

[UNCA Alum]

Pretty sure there was something written about the coming of a White Sox lovin, left handed ginger kid somewhere in Revelation. So I'm glad we dodged that bullet.

[TheThrillaNamedZilla]

ASSISTANT COACHES ARE FOR THE WEAK (did i mention i can raise money and i know darren holmes/cameron mayben/chris narvessoneosnen)

love

Coach

ZILLA!

[pullin4thesparkplug]

found this today:

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/yb/132655508

quote of the article: "They showed me their numbers. It wasn't even close to being on par with the rest of the conference."

(shaking head)

I heard they were interviewing some guy named Jim Perry for head assistant. He looks a lot like Tim Perry but with a fake mustache on.

[uncafan]

I heard they were interviewing some guy named Jim Perry for head assistant. He looks a lot like Tim Perry but with a fake mustache on.

the sad part is -- they'd probably fall for it... Actually, knowing UNCA Tim will be back as a manager or grad assistant for Eddie next year...

[uncafan]

Discussion on Coach Smith's coaching style and choice of assistants was moved to a new thread.....