Mid-Major Top 25

[UNCA Alum]

We got 9 votes. Same as Western. Radford creeps in at #25.

http://www.midmajortop25.com/?SPSID=923 ... M_ID=19200

. Butler (28) 0-0 770 -
2. Gonzaga (2) 0-0 699 -
3. Siena (1) 0-0 699 -
4. Northern Iowa 0-0 612 -
5. Western Kentucky 0-0 585 -
6. Old Dominion 0-0 580 -
7. Creighton 0-0 568 -
8. Akron 0-0 444 -
9. Wright State 0-0 377 -
10. Niagara 0-0 366 -
11. VCU 0-0 313 -
12. George Mason 0-0 304 -
13. Northeastern 0-0 298 -
14. Oakland 0-0 288 -
15. Portland 0-0 285 -
16. Illinois State 0-0 236 -
17. College of Charleston 0-0 230 -
18. Cornell 0-0 215 -
19. Rider 0-0 190 -
20. Long Beach State 0-0 171 -
21. South Alabama 0-0 166 -
22. Boston University 0-0 114 -
23. St. Mary's 0-0 105 -
24. Davidson 0-0 102 -
25. Radford 0-0 99 -


OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES: North Texas 84, Cleveland State 82, Troy 77, Kent State 76, Jacksonville 72, UC Santa Barbara 69, Southern Illinois 64, Morehead State 61, Wichita State 58, Sam Houston State 57, Holy Cross 50, Weber State 50, UW Milwaukee 46, Buffalo 44, Vermont 44, Morgan State 38, Mount St Mary's 38, Bradley 24, Stephen F Austin 15, American 14, East Tennessee State 14, Denver 13, Murray State 13, North Dakota State 14, Middle Tennessee State 11, Miami 9, Montana State 9, Portland State 9, San Diego 9, UNC Asheville 9, Western Carolina 9, Wisconsin Green-Bay 8, Appalachian State 7, Norfolk State 7, Cal State Northridge 6, Indiana State 6, South Dakota 6, South Carolina State 5, Montana 4, St Peters 4, Belmont 3, Lehigh 3, Arkansas Little Rock 2, Chicago State 2, Princeton 2, Santa Clara 2, SE Louisiana 2, Central Michigan 1, Detroit 1, Jackson State 1, Longwood 1, Quinnipiac 1, Texas A&M CC 1, Texas San Antonio 1, Wofford 1.

[Dogger 4 Life]

A win in Charlotte would put us in the top 20 easily.

[UNCA04]

I think it's interesting that the team picked to win their SoCon division (WCU) got the same number of votes as a team picked to finish second in its league (UNCA). Apples and oranges maybe, but then you've got Davidson which is actually IN the top 25 - no doubt based on reputation than anything - yet Davidson is picked, what, third? fourth? in its division? Anywho... just riffing on this poll.

[UNCA Alum]

Just a little comparison sake, to maybe put the Brevard loss in some kind of perspective.

College of Charleston 94, USC Aiken 92 (Overtime) Granted, USC Aiken is a lot better than Brevard. But still, Charleston is picked to win the SoCon.
Georgia Tech 84, Indiana University of Pennyslvania 76 (Overtime)
Le Moyne 82, Syracuse 79
UCLA 72, Concordia 71 (UCLA only led for two minutes of the entire game. Hit a three with sixteen seconds left.)


We also lost to Lenoir Rhyne in 2003 the year we won the Big South Tournament.

[uncafan]

Just a little comparison sake, to maybe put the Brevard loss in some kind of perspective.

College of Charleston 94, USC Aiken 92 (Overtime) Granted, USC Aiken is a lot better than Brevard. But still, Charleston is picked to win the SoCon.
Georgia Tech 84, Indiana University of Pennyslvania 76 (Overtime)
Le Moyne 82, Syracuse 79
UCLA 72, Concordia 71 (UCLA only led for two minutes of the entire game. Hit a three with sixteen seconds left.)


We also lost to Lenoir Rhyne in 2003 the year we won the Big South Tournament.

yeah its less the loss itself I'm concerned with and more how they played... I think we lost to Mars Hill or someone back in 2006/07 as well? But i could be wrong...

[UNCA Alum]

I don't think we ever lost to Mars Hill. But we did lose to Montreat in 2005-2006. That was the year KJ didn't play. We knew we were going to be bad without a point guard. (Literally, we didn't have a point guard.) We also only practice for like two days without KJ before the exhibition game.

Not to change the subject back to the Brevard game because we already have a thread for that, but you have to think that JP and Dickey are going to turn it around. Lord let's hope so.

[UNCA Alum]

We did lose to Mars Hill in 2007. They hit a shot at the buzzer. And we had two point guards for that game as well. That season didn't turn out to be God-awful. Made the Big South tourney semis and finished I think 5th in the conference. I think I remember the Big South being pretty solid that year though.

Lenoir Rhyne - 2002-2003 (t-3rd regular season, won conf tourney)
Brevard - 2004-2005 (third in conference, lost in opening round)
Montreat - 2005-2006 (bad)
Mars Hill - 2006-2007 (5th in conference, lost in semis)
Brevard - 2009-2010 (?)

If the past is any indication, we now have a 25% chance of going to the Dance.

[uncafan]

I don't think we ever lost to Mars Hill. But we did lose to Montreat in 2005-2006. That was the year KJ didn't play. We knew we were going to be bad without a point guard. (Literally, we didn't have a point guard.) We also only practice for like two days without KJ before the exhibition game.

Not to change the subject back to the Brevard game because we already have a thread for that, but you have to think that JP and Dickey are going to turn it around. Lord let's hope so.

Yeah it probably was Montreat i was remembering... And I do remember how bad that year was... I believe Bryan had also already transferred in (at least for the spring) but obviously wasn't playing yet...

[the cats]

1. Butler (22) 8-3 748 2
2. Northern Iowa (3) 8-1 708 3
3. Gonzaga (3) 8-3 707 1
4. St. Mary's (2) 9-1 627 4
5. Cornell 8-2 622 5
6. Western Carolina 10-1 606 8
7. Old Dominion 7-4 568 9
8. Missouri State 10-0 516 12
9. VCU 7-2 499 7
10. Wichita State 10-1 459 20
11. William & Mary (1) 7-2 407 16
12. Akron 7-3 403 15
13. Illinois State 8-2 351 6
14. Murray State 9-2 343 13
15. Siena 6-4 308 14
16. Niagara 7-4 251 17
17. Western Kentucky 5-4 231 11
18. Portland 6-3 197 10
19. Wright State 7-4 183 18
20. Green Bay 10-3 182 23
21. Ohio 7-3 178 NR
22. Detroit 7-4 171 21
23. Northern Colorado 9-3 87 22
24. Harvard 7-2 81 25
25. Long Beach State 6-4 73 24

OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES: Rider 52, Texas San Antonio 50, Hofstra 48, Southern Illinois 40, Coastal Carolina 37, Fairfield 34, George Mason 34, Pacific 30, Morgan State 23, Montana 22, Denver 20, Kent State 20, Indiana State 19, Buffalo 18, Oakland 17, IUPUI 16, Sam Houston State 15, Eastern Michigan 12, Southeastern Louisiana 9, Army 8, South Alabama 8, Bradley 6, Radford 6, South Carolina State 5, Eastern Kentucky 4, Miami, Belmont 3, Loyola 3, San Diego 2, Wofford 2, Iona 1, UC Santa Barbara 1.

http://www.collegeinsider.com/mmpoll/

[kingaling42]

Likely to drop some after last nights loss though.. wasn't a close game so the pollsters will note final score not the rest..

[the cats]

Likely to drop some after last nights loss though.. wasn't a close game so the pollsters will note final score not the rest..

You'll always drop after a loss, point is until the next poll comes out - WCU is number #6. Did not note that Wofford was in the others receiving votes?

[kingaling42]

As are Coastal & Radford..

[the cats]

12-28-09

1. Northern Iowa (24) 9-1 752 2
2. Gonzaga (3) 8-3 716 3
3. Butler 8-4 695 1
4. Cornell 9-2 679 5
5. St. Mary's (1) 11-2 664 4
6. Old Dominion (1) 8-4 602 7
7. VCU 7-2 524 9
8. Wichita State (1) 11-1 522 10
9. Missouri State 10-1 497 8
10. Western Carolina 10-2 476 6
11. William & Mary (1) 8-2 455 11
12. Illinois State 9-2 437 13
13. Akron 9-3 366 12
14. Siena 7-4 358 15
15. Niagara 8-4 273 16
16. Western Kentucky 6-4 263 17
17. Murray State 9-3 237 14
18. Wright State 8-4 210 19
19. Northern Colorado 10-3 193 23
20. Portland 7-4 154 18
20. South Alabama 9-4 154 NR
22. Green Bay 10-4 142 20
23. Detroit 8-4 112 22
24. Sam Houston State 8-3 64 NR
25. Coastal Carolina 11-2 63 NR

OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES: Texas San Antonio 54, Harvard 53, Southern Illinois 42, Morgan State 34, Ohio 31, Montana 27, Indiana State 25, Long Beach State 22, IUPUI 20, Army 19, Kent State 18, Pacific 18, George Mason 17, Fairfield 15, Buffalo 14, Rider 14, Loyola 10, Bradley 9, Denver 8, Hofstra 7, Eastern Kentucky 6, UC Santa Barbara 3, Western Michigan 1.

[the cats]

Jan 4th Mid-Major Poll

1. Northern Iowa (23) 12-1 758 1
2. Gonzaga (7) 11-3 739 2
3. Butler 10-4 697 3
4. Cornell 12-2 664 4
5. St. Mary's 13-2 636 5
6. VCU 9-2 580 7
7. Western Carolina 11-2 579 10
8. William & Mary (1) 10-2 523 11
9. Wichita State 13-2 504 8
10. Missouri State 12-2 494 9
11. Old Dominion 9-5 485 6
12. Akron 10-3 391 13
13. Siena 10-4 374 14
14. Illinois State 11-3 355 12
15. Western Kentucky 7-4 284 16
16. Northern Colorado 13-3 249 19
17. Murray State 10-3 242 17
18. Wright State 10-5 224 18
19. South Alabama 11-4 197 20
20. Portland 9-5 178 20
21. Coastal Carolina 13-2 141 25
22. Green Bay 11-5 102 22
23. Fairfield 10-3 74 NR
24. Detroit 10-5 71 23
25. Texas San Antonio 10-3 65 NR

OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES: Niagara 59, Southern Illinois 59, Harvard 39, Indiana State 32, Stephen F. Austin 32, Loyola 29, Kent State 23, Long Beach State 23, College of Charleston 22, Vermont 22, Hofstra 19, Western Michigan 19, Buffalo 16, Sam Houston State 15, Ohio 12, Pacific 11, Oakland 8, Morgan State 7, Eastern Kentucky 6, Eastern Michigan 4, Radford 4, UC Santa Barbara 3, IUPUI 2, Army 1, George Mason 1, Iona 1.

[Dogger 4 Life]

Gotta give it to you, Cats. You guys are having a hell of a year! Congrats. Def. reminds me alot of our 07/08 campaign. What a year that was

[the cats]

....You guys are having a hell of a year! Congrats....

Thanks.

[the cats]

Only dropped two positions......#7 to #9

1. Northern Iowa (25) 14-1 762 1
2. Gonzaga (4) 12-3 745 2
3. Butler 12-4 708 3
4. Cornell 13-3 670 4
5. St. Mary's (2) 15-2 645 5
6. Wichita State 15-2 599 9
7. Old Dominion 12-5 548 11
8. Siena 12-4 530 13
9. Western Carolina 12-3 487 7
10. William & Mary 12-3 472 8
11. Missouri State 13-3 443 10
12. Northern Colorado 15-3 377 16
13. Akron 11-4 376 12
14. Murray State 13-3 325 17
15. Coastal Carolina 16-2 314 21
16. Illinois State 12-4 291 14
17. VCU 10-4 279 6
18. Western Kentucky 9-5 214 15
19. College of Charleston 9-6 183 NR
20. Wright State 11-6 121 18
21. Oakland 11-7 106 NR
22. Texas San Antonio 11-3 102 25
23. Kent State 10-5 93 NR
24. Fairfield 12-4 92 23
25. Detroit 11-6 85 24

[kingaling42]

Cat's.. I know this thread exists from once upon a time when it mattered to UNCA fans.. but don't you think you could just post the topic in the WCU area of this board.. I don't believe any of us care any longer about this post & if folks still do care that area would be a good spot for it & would be available for folks to comment further... Thanks!

[the cats]

...but don't you think you could just post the topic in the WCU area of this board..

Man, you just want things you way don't you?

I didn't start this thread.... and as long as it exists, I'm not going to post information about this thread elsewhere. If you don't like this thread, don't read it. You've already tried to bully me into stop posting new topics in the WCU folder about individual WCU games... well this time - you lose.

Why don't you place you time and energy into posting on topics that someone might care about, rather than what and where I post on this board. As long as I'm a member of this board, and don't break any board rules.... I intend on posting when and where I desire, if that pisses you off.... even better !!!

[kingaling42]

It's just funny to me that folks , especially you cats, are always on the defensive side of things when I post suggestions.. that's really all it was- a suggestion.. I even tried really hard to say thank you & you still took it all wrong..

I think that's funny...

[the cats]

It's just funny to me that folks , especially you cats, are always on the defensive side of things when I post suggestions..

Maybe you should reevaluate how you come off to people then..... maybe you should consider that you should stop acting like a total jerk-off know it all, and folks might be more receptive to your "suggestions".

[kingaling42]

Or maybe you shouldn't assume that I'm always going for the jugular with the hundreds of posts that I post.. or can you just not tell the difference??

[the cats]

Or maybe you shouldn't assume that I'm always going for the jugular with the hundreds of posts that I post.. or can you just not tell the difference??

That's your problem... you think you own the board, and everyone should conform to YOUR wants!!!

[kingaling42]

ohhhhhhhh... you got me there... you win..

What exactly is the prize anyways.. oh that's right.. NOTHING!!

You act like there's winners/losers here or that I'm picking on everyone or bullying folks (on the internet?? How's that work anyways??) or maybe you're just whining, I dunno.. I am opinionated.. others here, including yourself are as well, we don't have to agree- we seldom do anyways.. you've been here long enough to know that I am antagonistic & tend to rub folks wrong at times, but don;t kid youself into thinking that ALL of my posts are that way- clearly that would be incorrect.. I don't own this board nor do I pretend to, I make suggestions like every other member here & have an opinion.. if you don't like it- Why do you come here?? You're not a UNCA fan, you've done a great job of promoting the WCU board from what I gather, so if my little ol opinion bothers you so very much- again, I'm not sure why you stay or consistently come back at me.. others here ignore me- why not you? I'm not implying that you have to leave either, so don't twist this post either- it's rather entertaining stirring the WCU pot, we will probably do that whether you're here or not just like every other fan board out there.. Again- you're taking things awfully personally here.. maybe you/WhatAJoke & Ktrain can meet & gang up on me- then maybe you'll win!!

[the cats]

I am opinionated... others here ignore me- why not you?

I've been here long enough for you to know the answer to that question before you asked. I tried to bury the hatchet with you once... even invited you to a football game, my treat.... all I got in return was ridicule... your game, I'll play.

[the cats]

WCU remains at #9, CoC moves up to #14, CCU #19
1. Northern Iowa (25) 16-1 762 1
2. Gonzaga (6) 14-3 749 2
3. Butler 14-4 708 3
4. Cornell 15-3 671 4
5. Siena 14-4 647 8
6. Old Dominion 14-5 596 7
7. St. Mary's 16-3 541 5
8. Wichita State 16-3 526 6
9. Western Carolina 14-3 497 9
10. William & Mary 14-3 474 10
11. Murray State 16-3 461 14
12. Northern Colorado 16-4 386 12
13. Western Kentucky 11-5 381 18
14. College of Charleston 11-6 303 19
15. Oakland 13-7 292 21
16. Missouri State 13-5 270 11
17. VCU 12-4 263 17
18. Akron 12-5 230 13
19. Coastal Carolina 17-3 172 15
20. Illinois State 13-5 164 16
21. Buffalo 10-4 96 NR
22. Northeastern 11-7 93 NR
23. Texas San Antonio 12-4 89 22
24. Harvard 12-3 85 NR
25. Vermont 13-5 84 NR

OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES: Green Bay 67, Portland 63, George Mason 50, Detroit 46, South Alabama 43, Western Michigan 35, Fairfield 23, IUPUI 20, Eastern Kentucky 18, Pacific 18, Kent State 17, Indiana State 16, Denver 15, Wright State 13, Iona 12, Morehead State 12, Southern Illinois 12, Arkansas State 11, Morgan State 8, Sam Houston State 8, Campbell 7, Montana 7, Lafayette 5, Wofford 5, Long Beach State 3, Maine 2.

[kingaling42]

Is that the sound of new car depreciation???



Nope... It's just WCU's ranking dropping a few more notches this week after losing to "arch-rival" Applachian State...

[the cats]

Nope... It's just WCU's ranking dropping a few more notches this week..

Well, all I can say to that is .... we're on the rankings.... you only wish UNC-A was ANY WHERE on that page, even the "others receiving votes"....

[beachdog]

Hey cats, having a mid-major top 25 is like having a "Fat Chicks of 2010' calendar. If you aint in the top 25, really what does it matter? Neither of us are, but I dont want my school to aspire to be mid-major. I want the dance, and the real top 25, the rest is just crap to make the other schools feel important. I mean really, Northern Iowa is ranked higher than Gonzaga? CMON MAN, that whole list is a sham, who votes on it?

[UNCA Alum]

Mid-major coaches vote on it.

I think UNI is actually better than Gonzaga... but yeah with Gonzaga being ranked I think #8 in the nation overall, it's kind of hard to justify them not being #1 in the Mid-Major poll.